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十年樱花雪 发表于 2006-9-12 19:07

[转帖]就“往事与词牌”系列访谈滕刚

<p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">还原男人的心灵真相</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">——就“往事与词牌”系列访谈滕刚</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">雪弟</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;<p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><font face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;<p></p></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.05pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">雪弟</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">:“往事与词牌”系列在读者中间争议很大,有部分人(譬如我)极力称赞这些作品,认为它揭示了当下物质社会中男人的心灵真相,并且消除了千百年来被道德、伦理包裹在男人身上的虚假光环,从而把男人还原到它本真的状态;但也有部分人(特别是女性)相当反感这些作品,认为小说中的性态度及叙述腔调是对女性的一种侮辱。你怎么看?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.05pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">滕刚</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">:作品引起争议,这很正常。因为在小小说领域,还从未有人像我这样写性。我想说的是,小小说也可以写性。关于“往事与词牌”系列其实应该从《上下十一年》谈起。不知你有没有读过这篇小说?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.05pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">雪弟</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">:这篇怎么可能没读过?记得这篇小说发表时,在社会上引起了不小的轰动。张三和向梅为达到长久偷情不被发现而制定的十二条纪律令人叹为观止啊。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.05pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">滕刚:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我的初衷是写人在婚外恋中的“累”。十二条纪律虽为二人长久偷情提供了保障,但其中的“累”可想而知。那么在此种状况下,男人们为何仍对男女之事(夫妻之外的)乐此不疲,这就促使我开始了另外思考。“往事与词牌”系列就是在这种背景下产生的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.05pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">雪弟</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">:你思考的结果就是,由写男人的“累”转向了对男人心灵真相的揭示上,《菩萨蛮》可能就是转向中的一篇,它越过了“累”,直抵男人的“承诺冲动”。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.05pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">滕刚:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">你说的这个转向只是其中的一个,我还有个想法就是尽可能客观地表现当下“越界”男女的心态。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 23.85pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-char-indent-count: 1.98; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">雪弟:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">这一点在“非常时刻”系列(包括《凌晨》、《中午》、《下午》、《傍晚》、《晚上》、《子夜》)里比较突出吧。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 23.85pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-char-indent-count: 1.98; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">滕刚:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">是这样的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 23.85pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-char-indent-count: 1.98; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">雪弟:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我们还是回到“往事与词牌”系列。你写这个系列的时候,是不是内心有一条清楚的线,比如说写多少篇,如何写?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 23.85pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-char-indent-count: 1.98; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">滕刚:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">这个系列可以说是一个庞大的工程构建,它是从不自觉到自觉的,由非理性到理性的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 23.85pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-char-indent-count: 1.98; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">雪弟</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">:你写作的材料来源于何处?是否与你居住的扬州这个城市有关?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 23.85pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-char-indent-count: 1.98; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">滕刚:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">在扬州,洗浴、桑拿、按摩等行业十分发达,它确实给了我启示。但更重要的还是来自于对现实的观察,以及对人性的反省。其实在男人的一生中,难免会有多个女人。从初恋到结婚再到婚外恋,倘若再加上嫖娼,一个男人有多少个女人有时恐怕他自己也难说得清。我就是想探索一下这里面的真相。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 23.85pt; mso-char-indent-count: 1.98; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">雪弟:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">在对男人心灵真相的探寻上,你确实做出了很多努力。像《蝶恋花》就淋漓尽致地展示了男人勾引女人的手段及男人对朋友的老婆存有非分之想的心理。再譬如《念奴娇》又揭示了男人“总是在和女孩上床后产生分手的念头”。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">《玉楼春》则颠覆了传统观念中对“嫖娼”一词的理解,认为那只不过是男人的生理冲动。我们承认你的这些发现是有意义的,而且是以性为道具来写人性。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">但也有些作品是不是夸大了性在人生中的意义,像《如梦令》中以性爱与打架次数的多少来判断婚姻是否美满。另外《丑奴儿》等作品的叙述腔调完全是一个</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">身居高处的男人对其脚下女人的一种俯视,而且带有洋洋自得的样貌。不知你对此如何看待?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 23.85pt; mso-char-indent-count: 1.98; mso-char-indent-size: 12.0pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">滕刚:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">我作品中确实存有你所说的缺点。有些叙述及细节的设置过于“生活化”,特别是缺乏更多形而上的东西。这与我准备不足并急着写出来有关。当然这也与追求“可读性”有关。在以后的写作中,我会注意。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.05pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">雪弟:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">还有两个问题想请教你,一是为什么想到用古典词牌名作为小说的题目,以致于好多读者都莫名其妙?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.05pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">滕刚:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">从职业上说,我是搞策划的。在这个浮躁的年代,用古词牌名会勾起人美好的记忆,这样会吸引更多人关注。当然,这也与我个人的审美有关,我特别喜欢反讽的东西。古词牌名所隐喻的经典爱情正好与当下的世俗爱情构成极有意味的时空反差。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.05pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">雪弟:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">还有个问题想请教你,在“个人履历表”系列里你是使用第三人称即“张三”作为叙述者的,在这个系列中你为什么一直用“第一人称”作为叙述者?这种区分有何特别的用意吗?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.05pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">滕刚</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">:之所以在“个人履历表”中用“张三”作为叙述者,是基于以下三种考虑:一是我反对从小说人物的名字看出他是什么职业及文化背景,“张三”是很普通的一个名字,从这个名字里你什么都看不出来;二是我是想写人类基本的主题,即全人类面临的主题,我想把时代刻在人身上的印痕丢掉;三是“张三”潜意识里已被大家认可,是你,是我,是他;不是我,不是你,也不是他。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.05pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">雪弟:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">“往事与词牌”系列同样写人类基本的主题啊。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.05pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">滕刚:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">“往事与词牌”是更私密化的题材,用第一人称写读者更可信。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.05pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">雪弟:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">所以有些人真的以为主人公就是你自己。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24.1pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 12.05pt;"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">滕刚:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">不是我自己。作家很苦,通常是在别人做爱的时间写作,哪有时间玩女人。小说的最高境界就是似我非我嘛。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; 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何晓 发表于 2006-9-13 10:30

<p>这样的作家,很累。</p><p>一直觉得写私密内容的,无论什么体裁都累。心累。</p>

十年樱花雪 发表于 2006-9-13 18:38

我倒是不这么以为,说真的,我觉得腾刚对人性刻画的极其到位,也很有深度!我个人比较喜欢~

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